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gen:LOCK

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Gen:lock season 2 is major disappointment and also are they making a 3rd season for it if they are please find a new team a new director and new screenwriter please do not make this a another disappointing show

johnthespokieman
3 years ago
2

Gen:lock season 2 I heard that it suck badly and hbo max and rooster teeth are not going to make a season 3 because of it box office record season 1 did great and season 2 happen and it suck I'm still on season 1 for it and I think I heard that there is a sex scene for it

johnthespokieman
3 years ago
2

Soo gen:lock created by gray g. Haddock and it was for rooster teeth but rooster teeth decided to sell gen:lock season 2 to hbo max but why did they do this but season 3 is happening and heading to hbo mx again so not cool

johnthespokieman
3 years ago
2

Here are my thoughts on the second season of gen:LOCK. To give you some context, I’m an author. I have been published multiple times in anthologies and my first novel was published last year. I also have a patreon with a variety of stories/manuscripts, some behind the paywall and some free for anyone to read. I know from experience that a good story needs good editing and a good overall concept needs good pacing to make it work. I’m not going to lie, this is going to be long, because I have a lot of thoughts, some you may agree with, some you may not. I will be putting an asterisk before each topic so you can choose what you want to read and what you want to ignore (promise, I won’t get mad. Again, I’m an author, so I can get pretty wordy.) I won’t be posting a TL;DR at the end. If you want just my overall views, those will be first. I originally had examples with spoilers, but decided to remove them, since this is so long. So there may be vague spoilers, rather than specific spoilers. * Overall: This is where I think people will disagree with me: The first and second seasons were equally bad and equally good, with the first season being slightly better. I’d give the first season a 7 out of 10, and the second season a 6 out of 10. But the reason for that is because of an innate problem with both seasons: both did not give equal time to character building and world building at the right moments. The first season spent so much more time on character building that they didn’t spend enough time on world building, and the second season spent so much time on world building that they dropped the ball on the characters. This created incredibly uneven storytelling, which led to the two seasons feeling drastically different from each other. I grew up watching mecha anime. I’m definitely an old school otaku (thought I love new stuff as well.) I loved watching Robotech with my brothers, and looking at the popularity of other mecha series, like Gundam and Evangelion, I totally get the appeal. They tend to have themes around human vs. machine, and exploring what it means to be human. That’s definitely what gen:LOCK was trying to do. I could see all of the pieces there. They just weren’t assembled properly. It was like they tried to assemble a puzzle that had multiple missing pieces, and in an attempt to make the puzzle whole, they shoved pieces together that didn’t actually fit or didn’t assemble them in the right order. Both seasons had all the potential, but just didn’t build well into a whole. And I 100% believe the reason why some people think the second season was trash is because the first season set up an entirely different tone and feel, so the expectations were that the tone would continue, or at least start with the same tone and gradually move darker. I think the main reason why this all happened was because they were trying to tell too much story in too little time. The main reason why I think this happened? The 8 episode, 30-ish minute structure. Had they doubled the time by either having 16 episodes of 30 minutes each, or 8 episodes that were an hour long, they would have had room for better pacing and build up for emotional moments that kept us, the viewers, invested in what happened next. I did like that each episode of the season 2 started with a map to show where The Union was in control and where The Polity was in control. That was well done. It’s a simple storytelling piece that says a lot with only one image. * World Building: Season 2 actually did a great job at world building. I finally felt invested in what the war was, why it was being fought, and the intricacies around where both The Polity and The Union were screwed up. But because they didn’t set things up with world building enough in the first season, everything felt rushed. I should have had enough time to believe that one side was better than the other before just making both sides look problematic. * Character Building: Season 2 dropped the ball. They spent so much time on character in the first season, that they forgot that you still need that to continue. Most attempts at character building felt tokenized and weak. This made me actively angry, as I tend to be drawn to storytelling that has a strong character base. I loved the characters at the end of the first season. I didn’t care by the end of the second season. They sacrificed character growth to have space for world building, and that shouldn’t have to happen. If that was done more equally among both seasons, it could have worked brilliantly. Again, the pieces were there, but they weren’t assembled correctly. My favorite character in season 2 was Sinclair. I’m glad that they took his character in that direction. It was unexpected, surprising, and set the idea that there was another option outside of The Union and The Polity. * Pacing: Both seasons struggled with that. Largely influenced by much of what I mentioned about the uneven use of world and character building. Moments that should have been shocking to the viewer fell flat. Even points where episodes ended felt sudden. Times when there could have been slower moments to establish tone and feel were stunted. * Battle Sequences/Violence: I’m not great at writing fighting sequences, but even I know that the second season was terrible at that. * HBO-izing the show: One of the things that gave gen:LOCK its charm was its humor. Where the hell was that in season 2? Any humor fell flat. This gave it a very uneven tone, and again, I blame it on the inconsistencies with world building and character building. Had we known in season 1 what The Union and The Polity’s motives were, we would have seen a better and more even distribution of darkness and humor to the show. And when combined well, humor and darkness can coexist in the same story, and I know this because I write a lot of horror comedy. But because they didn’t establish how disturbing the motivations were on both sides, they ended up with very uneven storytelling. Part of this has to do with HBO. A lot of production companies will look at past successes and try to apply that formula to new series and shows in an attempt to bank off of what worked before. But the reality is that what works for one story doesn’t always work for another. I’m going to give an example: The Witcher. That show is fantastic, in part because it could have attempted to recreate some of Game of Thrones’ style, but it didn’t. While they seem like series with similar themes and tones, The Witcher rarely adds unnecessary sex to the story telling. They rarely add unnecessary bloodshed to the story telling. They add enough that it helps move the story and plot along. This was a failing of Game of Thrones that they managed to avoid in The Witcher, and it was done well. In season 2 of gen:LOCK, the first sex scene was completely unnecessary for the plot and could have even been replaced with something that could have injected some of the humor back into the show (like a toilet scene instead.) The second scene was actually good in terms of character growth, but the way the rest of the story played out, we didn't get to see the outcome of that character growth because everything happened too fast. Then there’s the violence/death thing. This season established some great thematic gems in discussing life and death. It could have been handled with intelligence and emotion. But everything was paced so badly that it had way less impact. Deaths were handled so poorly that they didn't even have shock value. I wanted to feel the same way I felt when watching Fullmetal Alchemist when Hughes died. But the pacing/timing was so poor that they felt like a throwaway moments. There's no reason to kill characters off unless it really strengthens the story, and I say this as someone who has killed off characters. * Suicide: When topics of suicide come up, my radar goes up because I have a degree in clinical psychology. Even with the warnings and the suicide hotline thing, it didn’t have impact. I don’t know if they could have fixed that with music or what, but each time the suicide ritual happened, it didn’t have impact. I’m glad they put the warnings up and everything, but it felt more exploitative than actually providing plot development. * Music: Music helps set the tone and can kind of cover for editing issues and increase emotional quality. Since I had a hard time caring as much as I usually would (and believe me, I’m a total softie who cries at commercials for pet adoption), I’m thinking the music was bland. I can’t even really remember it, and I’ve had years of music lessons. And darn it to heck, I miss the Battle Tapes theme song of the first season. My guess is they were trying to save money so they didn’t have to give Battle Tapes royalties on the song, but the replacement theme music was relatively forgettable. The first few bars sounded good, but it lapsed into sounding generic. So yeah. Those are my thoughts. Great idea for a series with a lot of great concepts, art styles, voice actors, and themes, but the execution in total needed work. I could see how someone could even take both seasons, rearrange the edits so that the parts about the history of The Union and The Polity could be more evenly paced among the character building of the first season, and it would be a stronger piece as a whole. In fact, I’d love to see someone do that, because I think it would improve the series a lot as a whole. A lot of the pieces could be salvaged, at the very least, because in sections, there’s a lot that’s good. I can see where this series could go from here, were they to do a third season, but because they essentially messed up the pacing and creating disparate tones between the first two seasons, I think it's better that they stop at this point.

ctaekotemple
3 years ago
1

I...I just can't! Was looking forward to it I got 3 episodes in...W....T...F is this...whatever this is. Any other SJW Woke boxes you needed to tick off for sake of checking them off? Whatever this is, was a complete and utter waste. Not only did it get pushed out to HBO max first (why do we have a first membership still?) but when it finally gets here...we get...well we get season 2. Noped right out of that, and I may just nope right out of my First membership. Please...Please keep whomever worked/wrote/animated/paid/designed/signedoff on this...as far away from RWBY as possible...

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trshaw52
3 years ago
1

Season 2 is very different from season 1. It was created by an entirely different team and it really shows. It feels like they just took the basic framework of the world and characters and shoved pessimistic, morally grey, """"deep"""" themes into it. It a shift that feels like a betrayal to everything that made season 1 special. I don't want to get too deep into it. I just don't want people going this thinking it'll be like season 1. It very much got the HBO treatment. More importantly *Take the Content Warnings Seriously*!!!!! It mentions suicide, but I really have to emphasis that suicide is a *Major* theme that cannot be avoided and is often approached in what can easily be seen as a positive light. If you are not in a place to engage with that kind of content, please don't watch this. I promise you aren't missing out.

beovolf
3 years ago
1

Oh boy…. Well to all you fine folks who didn’t previously get the chance to see season 2 on HBO Max, I wish you the best of luck. I want to warn you (if it isn’t too late to do so) that there are some major “shifts” from season 1. I’m not here to tell you what you should or shouldn’t enjoy. However I would be careful about having your screen visible / audio perceivable in any public place of anywhere you wouldn’t want something NSFW to be seen. There could be some very awkward moments if you do. If you new viewers want to chime in your thoughts feel free, just keep in mind to use spoiler tags as appropriate.

falore91
3 years ago
1

Yeah I'm not feeling this. https://twitter.com/OfficialgenLOCK/status/1501641502245666822?s=20&t=SOsRZ0g8YJFQlRc77ZRVRA

NightmareHawkMD
3 years ago
3

23 of march... an official announcement from genlock Twitter... FINALLY!!!!!!!!

K1LL3R1393
3 years ago
3

I noticed Gen:Lock buried deep RoosterTeeth Store [https://store.roosterteeth.com/collections/gen-lock], and no 2nd season of Gen:Lock to Rooster Teeth... .not sure what to make of this.

Cranium0
3 years ago
4

Well on reddit the reviews say it's terrible

daywaltthomasm
3 years ago
2

I wonder if they forgot about it or not?

K1LL3R1393
3 years ago
1

Waiting for Season 2 to release on First aftet the 90 days, day... 6? I'm in Canada and can't get HBO Max and am extremely dissapointed that i had to wait so long in the first place, now i'm waiting even longer than we were told we would have to? What the heck?

Commando_Raptor5956
3 years ago
3

@Chelsea Has it been 90 days already? I thought season 2 of gen:LOCK was supposed to be released here now?

NightmareHawkMD
3 years ago
2

Where’s Season 2? Thought it was supposed to release on First today, or am I wrong?

Duel_Master
4 years ago
2

Justly no be warned but for those who don't have HBO Max spoilers ahead Gen. Lock season 2 just God down to a new direction like a shade reaction like ruby but slower

daywaltthomasm
4 years ago
0

I would rate season one of Gen:Lock a solid 9 out of 10. On the other hand season two Gen:Lock that have watch (to date) is a 3 out of 10. It was like the new writers had a mission to dismantle Gen:Lock and rebuild it into a trash heap. As far as I am concern that Gen:Lock will not see a season three with season two being the trash that it is.

Cranium0
4 years ago
1

Hey everyone - I wanted to provide a brief update about gen:LOCK reaction videos that have affected some of you in our reactor community. We recognize that some videos have been taken down and copyright strikes have been issued, some on videos that are years old. Like you, we were caught by surprise when this occurred, but it was something that we should have expected. When the rights for gen:LOCK changed hands to HBO Max, our policies would no longer apply. We are sorry that we did not catch this before it became an issue for many of you. We love to see your videos and continue to want to see them. We want to do anything we can to encourage you to create content around gen:LOCK. To that end, if any of you are having issues with your reaction videos please email us and we'll see what we can do to help you individually. Email us at fanprojects@roosterteeth[dot]com. Much love, <3 Chelsea

Chelsea
4 years ago
1

Artist: https://www.deviantart.com/commanderkip/art/sweating-gasoline-789174021

Starpun
4 years ago
0

How long until we get this crossover? https://www.deviantart.com/anonamos701/art/RWBY-x-gen-LOCK-787658189

Starpun
4 years ago
3