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#RTAnswers - #527 - Baby Shark is a Curse
https://roosterteeth.com/episode/rooster-teeth-podcast-2019-rooster-teeth-podcast-527
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The "over/under" toilet paper debate resolved by patent images?
A few years ago, images of the "original" patent filings for perforated toilet paper were discovered by a Business Insider journalist and the pictures quickly went viral. Interestingly, the most popular image, seen below, is that of an 1891 patent filing by Seth Wheeler and is not remotely the first patent regarding toilet paper or even perforated paper. If you take a quick trek down the softly quilted rabbit hole of perforated toilet tissue, you will find numerous other filings which predate Wheeler's conclusive "over" patent images by several years.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/31/8a/74/e9985513c79360/US459516-drawings-page-1.png
One of these, the first image below, was a filing by Wheeler himself only one year prior to his now "infamous" 1891 filing. In this image you can see that, perhaps, the "over" camp is on ultra soft ground. Digging further we can find that the first toilet paper related patent on the Google search engine is another Wheeler patent from 1885 which is again concerning the perforation of the paper. This can be seen in the second image. This image, while clearly showing the toilet paper on the roll, it does not appear to clearly show which way that toilet paper is facing, though I think it likely that it is in the "over" configuration as well. The reasoning for this assumption has to do with the many other patent filings surrounding toilet paper at the time. This would also be the first Wheeler Toilet Paper themed patent which actually referenced the toilet paper. Prior to this, all of of Wheeler's TP related patents had been focused on the holder and had no need to show, or dictate, the position of the paper.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/60/cf/68/bb0686a0af519d/US422866-drawings-page-1.png
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9e/84/50/8304a990d38fdd/US333183-drawings-page-1.png
While inventors like Wheeler's and Hicks's focus on perforated sheets, would eventually make Charmin millions with the idea that even a bear could detach a single square of toilet tissue, other TP focused inventors of the time were creating all sorts of contraptions to cut the non-perforated toilet paper of the 1880s. One of these, C. C. Johnson, would patent his Paper Holder and Cutter, seen below, a good eight months before Wheeler's earliest patent above. There are several similar non-perforated paper cutting contraption patents, all of which show the toilet paper going over.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f8/4f/34/e7cf4382052267/US316368-drawings-page-1.png
As I spent time perusing the US patent office archives on toilet paper contraptions I realized that, in all likelihood, the ONLY reason Wheeler, Hicks, James, Myers, and the other "big" names in the toilet paper innovation industry depicted later patent images with an "over" toilet paper roll position was because ALL of the non-perforated toilet paper cutting contraptions patented, and in use, prior to the later kings of perforation had an over-oriented roll. It's my opinion, for what it's worth, that this decision wasn't due to some physics-oriented "best practice" but rather due to the requirement of placing a razor blade in an inauspicious but safe place which allowed a hasty slice through the paper during a late night clean up after an unfortunate five minutes in a cold dark outhouse. "Plainly" put, it is easier to cut paper by pulling up against a blade applying gravity-induced downward pressure than to push down against a blade providing spring-induced upward pressure, not to mention much safer in the dark with shivering hands. So, what does all of this mean for the over/under debate?
I think it means, if you happen to be in the camp which dictates that the inventor of something has the final word on how that something is utilized, then this is a pretty solid blow against the under camp... but you also are probably the same group of... eh... intellectuals... pronouncing "gif" like a peanut butter because some rando claimed that is what he meant when he failed whatever class it is where you learn those nifty pronunciation marks in the dictionary. However, if you happen to be on the side of those who believe that the "best laid plans" are just that, plans, and that the purposing masses dictate the "truth" of any word, or toilet-themed innovation, than it probably doesn't, or shouldn't, matter what any of the patent pages say. Over is better because society, and apparently 90% of the RT Podcast live audience, have said it is so.... unless you own a cat.
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Is there such a thing as flushable wipes?
If we are being honest, anything which your toilet can successfully make disappear from the bowl, by definition, is flushable. For example, American Standard appears to be quite proud of their Titan model, as can be seen from the below promotional YouTube video. Let's just hope that isn't connected to the London sewer systems. They have enough to worry about with their existing 250-meter long fatbergs consisting of non-flushable flushable wipes without also worrying about hundreds of golf balls and a few toy snakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWg63jjgaYY
Now that we have gotten the semantics out of the way, we can tackle the intent of the question. That being not whether "flushable" wipes are a thing but rather, do any of the wipes which currently claim to be "flushable" and "septic and sewer safe" actually perform as intended. The simple answer to this is "no, not really". More specifically, the answer is that there are thousands of different flushable wipes from hundreds of different manufacturers worldwide and zero governing bodies or flushable "standards" identified. The closest to this would be the INDA, or the Association of the Nonwoven Fabrics Industry. This association, founded in 1968, has served "hundreds of member companies in the nonwovens/engineered fabrics industry doing business globally". Their Flushability Guidelines documentation are also the closest any of us have to providing a testing strategy to the numerous wipes touting a "flushable claim". Unfortunately for us, the current board of directors of INDA consists of a managing director of a company which "sells machinery and process components to the Nonwovens industry", the president of a company which has "global manufacturing operations producing specialty engineered products for the thermal/acoustical and filtration/separation markets", the president-advanced of a company which is "a global supplier of specialty papers and fiber-based engineered materials", a director of American sales for a company which "develops unique nonwoven fabrics... such as Sontara®, SoftFlush® and SoftLite®", a sales director for a company which is "a leading manufacturer and marketer of premium-quality... fibers and nonwovens for commercial, industrial and residential applications", and the associate director of Proctor & Gamble which, for those living under a rock, have likely produced most of the products in ALL of our bathrooms right now, and the list continues.
Perhaps I am alone, but it would be foolish to believe that any one on the board of directors list or this association at all could create and perform unbiased tests on the "flushability" of a specific wet wipe. This would be tantamount to allowing an ex-coal lobbyist to lead the EPA... oh... damn!
Backing up a bit, the flushable wipe was created in 2001 when the Kimberly-Clark corporation, who you may know better as the manufacturer of Kleenex, Cottonelle, and Huggies, spent millions developing the first wipe you could, worry-free, toss in the toilet and they spent millions more convincing adults that a truly clean bottom required just a bit more than the paper we had been using for over a century. After all, you wouldn't us a simple dry 2-ply sheet on your baby's bottom, why should you use something so primitive on your own. Also, in case you were wondering, yes, the INDA has a former Kimberly-Clark employee on their board as well.
Fast-forward to August 2013 and the coining of the term "fatberg" to represent the bus-sized collection of grease and "flushable" wipes found beneath the streets of London. Over the next five years, another ten more massive collections of congealed fat, waste, and wet wipes have been found in Australia's, America's, and the United Kingdom's largest cities. The "flushable" wipe industry and the INDA would have you believe that these 100-ton solidified waste deposits consist of far more grease and waste than the wipes which they have spent so much money and effort certifying as "flushable" however, the unfortunate truth is that EVERY one of these fatberg reports have always had the same three components identified, grease, human waste, and wipes. While the percentages of these individual components have never been clearly defined one notable ingredient absent from this fatberg recipe is simple 2-ply toilet paper. For an industry which would like us all to believe that these wipes are just as degradable as their TP counterparts, they certainly aren't about to argue that the reason wet wipes are more obviously prevalent than toilet paper is because people are using far more wipes than your standard bog roll.
As early as 2004, multiple independent studies have been performed on the "flushability" of "flushable" wipes and, to this day, there have been zero which have concluded that flushable wipes have the same level of degradation as a roll of Charmin Ultra Soft. Now that we have all learned something today; how much have you contributed to the growing fatberg beneath your streets?
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Cold Calling your "Neighbor"?
This relatively new "upgrade" to the cold-calling scammer world started cropping up in late 2017 and has exploded in similar-digit popularity over the last year. While the ability to spoof a phone's caller ID has been around for some time and a few years back there was even a brief rash of scammers calling would-be marks and having the mark's own number appear on their caller ID. I mean, if you can't trust yourself then who can you trust?
These same scammers quickly realized that most of us were wise enough to know there was no way we would be calling us at this hour so they shifted gears slightly. Perhaps showing our own numbers was too meta so, taking a step back, they started showing us our neighbors and, to perhaps no one's surprise, it worked. It worked, and still works, because, like the Podcast crew said, that call could be from your doctor, your kid's school, your lawyer, or your actual neighbor calling you about your burning home.
This process, known as "neighbor spoofing" has quickly become the most utilized method of scammer cold-calling nationwide however, the spoofers don't seem to be the scammers, at least not directly. Most studies have found that these robotic auto-dialers don't know you from your thousands of neighbors all sharing the same six digit phone number prefix. That is, until you answer. While the dialers will randomly dial digits and display a similar number to the one they just dialed on the caller ID, it is the act of you answering which seals your fate fore the scammer. If you never answer, the number dialed is considered illegitimate or inactive and is, presumably, put back to the bottom of the list to be tested again in the future but, if you answer, then your number is flagged as a live one and moved to antithesis of the Do Not Call registry. From there, your number will consistently be shifted back to the top of the dialer queue in the hopes that you will answer again and some guy from India named Frank will tell you about how your Apple account has been compromised but he can keep your nudes from being sent to your grandma for a few iTunes gift cards.
A 2018 study performed by Hiya, a Seattle-based caller ID and robocaller protection company found that of the approximately 4.3 billion calls they intercepted every month in 2018 over 56% were neighbor spoof calls. Their premium subscription touts the ability to only allow the numbers and people you care about to reach you and successfully block all other would-be scammers from ever reaching your ringer. The claim to have a database with millions of legitimate to check every incoming call against and their app has pretty impressive ratings and reviews though I would be interested to see if any in the community had given them a try.
Unfortunately, according to the BBB and the FTC, there is little definitive ways of avoiding scam calls using the neighbor spoofing technique beyond not answering a number you do not know which, as I'm sure we can all attest to, is easier said than done, especially when you are waiting for that important call back from someone outside of your typical circle. Incidentally, I may have accidentally stumbled upon the only real solution to the neighbor spoofing issue.
The reason why neighbor spoofing has quickly become so successful in connecting the world's scammers to unsuspecting people is because you absolutely might be expecting that follow-up call from the doctor or your kid's day care. There is no world where we can just ignore these calls and we can't possibly have every legitimate number which may contact us in our phone's contact list. If you are unable to know every legitimate number that may call you then the only solution is to ensure that every non-legitimate number which calls you, you can immediately identify as bullshit. The solution then is to ensure that no legitimate person would ever contact you from a number which shares the first six-digits of your number.
Two years ago, I moved to a new state but never changed my number because why the hell would I? Here I sit, two years later, 100% confident that every neighbor-spoofed number which calls me is complete bullshit. There is no one that I need to speak to which shares the first six digits of my number who are not currently saved as a contact and there never will be. I am so confident in this, that if there were a way to immediately forward anyone who calls me from a number which shares the first six-digits of my number to some special "fuck off" voicemail, I would be 100% comfortable doing so. The good news for everyone who isn't planning on moving to another state any time soon is that, with the wonders of modern technology, this is insanely easy to set up for you as well without moving from your chair, let alone your home.
As an added bonus, the following solution has also been suggested by most cyber-security experts as the ONLY way of protecting your personal information and accounts in our backwards ass world where we use our public phone numbers as some sort of special two-factor authentication solution. It's like the "secure" insecurity of our Social Security Numbers all over again!
Here's the plan: First step, get a new phone number from your phone carrier and give it to absolutely no one. Do not put it in your contacts list or your significant other's, not even your mom, no one should be trusted with this number. In fact, after this next step, you should forget it as well. Step two, get yourself a Google Voice number and forward all calls to your new number. This Google Voice number should NOT share the first six-digits of your actual number and should preferably be from some area code in Alaska or some other state on the other side of the country. Last step, give everyone you know, all of your friends, your doctor's offices, your billing accounts, etc, this new Google Voice number. Now, anytime you receive a random call from some number which appears to be the same as this new Google Voice number you know that it is complete bullshit and you can forward it immediately.
For those of you who really want to embrace this New World Order, download an app called Burner. This allows you to pay upfront for a rotating list of numbers which you can essentially "burn" at anytime. These numbers can all be linked to your Google Voice number but can then be given out to individuals based on your own amount of trust and, in the event of a "compromise" you can burn the line with a tap of the screen, effectively allowing you to "restart" any headway the neighbor-spoofers may believe they had on your lines. A similar solution on the email front is to use the plus (+) sign followed by specific text in your Gmail address when signing up for various accounts. In the event that you start getting spam to a specific "plussed" address, just filter straight to the trash and find comfort in that fact that even though that site obviously sold your email to a third-party at least you don't have to deal with it cluttering your legit inbox.
Alright... I think I've filled my quota of helpful tech-tips for the day. Good luck!
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Is glass a liquid?
This would be a very solid no... ah, see what I did there? Seriously though, let's spell this one out so Burnie can sleep better at night knowing he was wrong about something else. Spoiler alert, it won't be the first time in this Podcast.
As mentioned on the podcast, glass is what is known as an Amorphous Solid. While this does differentiate it slightly from other decidedly solid solids like a rock, it does not make it any less solid. The classification as an amorphous solid just means that, due to how quickly it cooled when hardening from a molten liquid to a solid, the atoms making up its structure do not form a perfect crystalline and symmetrical structure. Instead the molecules are very random and potentially spread out rather than a defined and constant pattern however, and this is key, the atoms are tightly bound to each other. This tight bond is what determines the solidity of the item. In a liquid, atoms are loosely bound which allows them to "jump" from molecule to molecule and move past each other, or flow. The measurement of this flow is the liquid's viscosity. This can, for some liquids, be an extremely high, almost motionless, measurement such as the University of Queensland's nearly century long measurement of falling pitch, seen below, a material which many of us, including our local Department of Transportation authorities would likely swear is a solid.
https://youtu.be/UZKZF7FNh_0
Why then would anyone believe that glass is, like the pitch above, actually very slowly moving liquid rather than the solid it obviously is? This scientific urban legend's source can be traced to the thousand year old stained glass windows we find in some of the world's oldest churches. If you look at a stained glass window, in many cases you will see that the bottoms of the individual glass panes tend to be just slightly thicker than the top. This observation led professional and amateur scientists alike to come to the conclusion that glass, like the pitch, must be slowly flowing towards the bottom of their iron frames. Unfortunately, in the modern era of science we are able to measure the would-be viscosity of these solid windows and have found that the lead frames have a lower viscosity than the glass. Meaning that the frames would "melt" away long before the glass would. You may be wondering why the stained glass is often thicker at the bottom then? The solution to the mystery, perhaps anticlimactically, is just that it is, especially centuries ago, difficult to make uniformly thick glass and the pieces would be installed with the thicker part at the bottom to provide a more solid base in their framing.
As is typical when researching the science-related questions, I stumbled across my own piece of personally mind blowing details regarding solids and liquids. Specifically concerning the innards of our planet. Unless I am completely misremembering my elementary-level science classes, I was taught that our crust is "floating" on a constantly churning molten sea known as the mantle. Turns out, more recent studies of seismic wave propagation through our planet have led geologists to the conclusion that our mantle is actually a very solid piece of silicate rock. It is often depicted as a liquid due to the relative measurements of its movement. Meaning that on a geological timescale, read many millions of years, this solid rock can "flow" like a viscous liquid. Not because the atoms are any less tightly bound than the glass but because the immense pressure can force atoms to "jump" to any "free" molecular space which may exist causing it to behave as a "flowing" liquid when viewed over what would essentially be a billion year time lapse.
Special thanks to Dirk from Veristablium ( 🙂) on this one. His video below was my primary source for all of the above. He is frequently my go to for the more scientifically challenging questions and just as frequently blows my mind with his findings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wuh0NRG1s
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How far has Voyager gone at this point?
The Voyager spacecrafts, each launched in 1977, took slightly different trajectories out of our solar system and have both outlasted their initial five-year lifespan by over thirty-five years. In addition to this unexpected aging, they are currently traveling at approximately 38k and 34k mph, respectively, and are a distance of 13.5 and 11.2 billion miles from earth. Interestingly, this number does not constantly increase as the Earth's orbit around the sun is nearly twice as fast as the Voyager probes' speeds. This causes us to "catch up" to them, forcing the distance value to decrease temporarily before spiking upward at double the speed as we move away from them once more.
Interstellar space, or the edge of our solar system, is defined as the penetration limit of the solar wind produced by our sun which extends like a massive invisible bubble around our entire solar system and is billions of miles in diameter. Due to its flight trajectory, Voyager 1 actually crossed this line into interstellar space in 2012 however Voyager 2, traveling at a shallower plane, will cross it in several years.
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Can you get a sunburn from a campfire?
Uh... no. A sunburn is caused by the extended exposure to ultraviolet rays and is a burn from that radiation whereas a burn experienced from a campfire is a thermal burn which occurs due to extended exposure to the heat produced by the flames.
In the event of extended UV ray exposure, the human body relies on a skin pigment called melanin to act as a sort of natural sunscreen and shield the skin from harmful rays by converting the absorbed UV rays to heat and dissipating this heat through the skin. This defense is only temporary however and, once overwhelmed, the skin begins to suffer radiation burns from the exposure. The body will then pool blood to the damaged area to provide plenty of blood for healing the damaged skin which, combined with the characteristic inflammation, causes the bright red coloring we all know too well.
By contrast, a burn from a campfire, while similar in the sense that the skin is used to absorb and dissipate the flame's heat, melanin is not involved in the defense or healing process. Instead, continued exposure overwhelms the skin's ability to dissipate the heat and it begins to blister or show other signs of various burn degrees. While the healing process for these burns is, in some cases, identical to the damage done by the sun, the actual burn experienced is not a sunburn.
I suppose, however, if the symptoms, damage, and treatment of a burn are identical, should the arguably "invisible" cause really be the rationality behind what kind of burn it is identified as? Or, more precisely, if Burnie Burns burns then should the burning burn which burnt Burnie Burns mean less than Burnie Burns's burning burns?