So I agree with Jon that more people should have died. When I went into this episode, I considered only John Snow (King/Main protagonist), Gendry (Last of the Baratheon House and Arya's love interest) and the Hound (Who is probably fated to kill the Mountain) unkillable for plot purposes. I also feel that plot reason for sending Brianne of Tarth to King's Landing is for Jamie-Brianne tension, which ultimately will end up as a battle between the two, since Ned's sword needs to be reforged (Gendry?). I'm also totally tired of the dragons being the dues ex machina, as Jon pointed out. Frankly, you're totally right about the lack of episodes causing the whole thing feeling rushed. This whole last episode just felt like they were tying up loss ends from the Brianne discussion between Tormund and the Hound, to the Longclaw awkward debate. I feel like that they wasted the way Thoros died, since he was hyped as this drunken knight willing to take on enormous odds at yet he dies in his sleep frozen?
I guess... what I want to see? A badass fight between the Clegane brothers. A sentimental fight between Jamie and Brianne, where honor dictates them to fight, but neither wants to. Gendry saving Arya somehow. Dragon on undead dragon action. Obsidian arrows blocking out the sun. The Iron Bank paying for Arya to kill Cersei after she fails to repay her debt. Oh and Gendry killing Melisandre and becoming the 'Prince who was Promised'.
Just speaking to the point of Brienne being sent to King's Landing.
Littlefinger whispered the nonsense that Brienne could stop/kill Arya and it would fall within her oath to their mother.
Sansa sent Brienne away regardless of Arya's behaviour. Trusts her sister moreso still.
Well, that was unexpected:
I decided to look into any indication as to how many White Walkers there are. Supposedly, Crasters son was turned into a white walker, not a wight. ( It never died and the skin went pale, never peeled, etc. )
Ok, so how many sons has Craster given to the White Walkers? According to him, that was number 100! This wouldn't even be that surprising either, as he has apparently been doing this long enough to have multiple generations of daughters/wives, and at that time he had 19 wives.
So, it sounds like there might be quite a lot more White Walkers out and about, probably trying to round up wildlings to add to the main army.
I want to see the Night King Riding Viserion, and next season i want to see who the Night King is.
I imagine the chains came from Hard Home, it being a coastal fishing village. Maybe they're anchor remains from some of the ships that Stannis used to sail beyond the Wall so he could flank the Wildlings in Season 4.
God this motherfucker can't even say literally.
It's lit-er-uh-lee, at least say "lit-ruh-lee," but no he says "lit-uh-lee" and it's pretty god damn annoying.
If the show wasn't getting record views every episode they would rethink season length, but it will just reinforce the idea of this Michael Bay esque season as better than past seasons. Also if Arya isn't playing Littlefinger like a fiddle I will be very upset, I was fine with the whole waif thing besides being rushed, but this would cement my displeasure.
To me, it's nitpicky to complain nobody else died. Every season we lose a lot of characters, but not many of them are very huge. We lost Margaery, Loras, Prettyboy McCousinface whose name I don't remember, etc. in one episode. Sure. But every other season, we only lose like two principal characters. Drogo and Ned. Robb and Catelyn. Joffrey and Tywin. This episode alone we lost Thoros, Benjen, and Viserion, and to me that made it more realistic than any single principal character's death. Jorrah and Sandor are good fighters. Jon and Tormund have to survive because plot. Yes. Beric dying right after Thoros wouldn't have any impact, so nearly everyone surviving wasn't a huge deal to me. It was definitely the smallest issue this episode's writing had.
unless water starts defying gravity I'm pretty sure Jon's sword opened its eyes
They confirmed it was just ice melting off the eyes when Jon's hand splashed up.
I think the Night King went for Viserion instead of Drogon with the intention of the dragon crashing through the ice, thus 'preserving' him. Jon Snow and the gang already encountered a wight polar bear so they know that other creatures can be turned. If the Night King had killed Drogon, maybe Jon could have warned Daenerys that she would need to deal with the body before the Night King did, either by getting the remaining dragons to carry the body away or by burning it (can dead dragons burn??). Having Viserion crash through the ice means that Jon et al would expect that the body wasn't retrievable (where did those chains come from?) and could then be kept as an ace in the hole.
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