At least there in America you give proper punishments. Here in Finland me and my friend were threaten to be killed and there were about dozen other stealing charges, And what did he get 6 months in prison. judge said that he gets smaller punishment because he has been doing similar ´crimes before and was punished for them. So basically the more you break law in here the smaller the punishment.
That's terrifying. In a lot of ways....
USA prison sentencing is long but the prisons are relatively cushy: two years in a French lockup and you'll wish you had ten in a US one (there are a number that are in old castle cells... no, you can't get cable TV...) - as for Russian jails... he's just lucky he didn't get sent to Siberia but that's not going to make him happy, just not dead of hypothermia (probably).
Having said that UK prisons are cushy _and_ they have shorter than USA sentencing... and that really works well! </fake happy voice>
It's a matter of preference of justice system: Is the intent to enact revenge, punish the offender or rehabilitate them. Middle Eastern justice systems tend to go with revenge; chopping off hands, beheadings, making the offender a pauper etc.. French and Russian justice systems are designed to punish the offender so they never forget (think PTSD done on purpose) and others fear being punished; solitary confinement, black cells, inhuman conditions etc.. The Swedish justice system is meant to rehabilitate offenders; educate them in the error of their ways, give them skills with which to get a proper job when they leave, help to remove the barriers to re-entering society and remove the pressures and reasons for having become criminals in the first place (though the system never forgets and offenders are kept a much closer track of than most citizens - proportionate and relevant to their crimes). The UK and USA justice systems are a mish-mash of all three and, as such, fail to do any of those things properly and therefore do little to solve the problem and possibly make it even worse - certainly recidivism is higher in those latter two than any of the others (though, in the case of the Middle East, it's difficult to be a criminal once you're dead!)
Pick your poison (though apparently not in most USA states any more ;) - tasteless jokes, that was the theme, right?
Agreed. As is, the US justice system is a joke. Most prisons tend to breed criminals to be worse, while doing it in relative comfort, and costing a significant portion of tax-payer money to do so.....
To be sort of fair, Russian prisons are fucking brutal. 9 1/2 years in a Russian prison is like 35 years anywhere else.
PC MASTER RACE
That's "us", civil wars all over the place, it's like anarchy... oh, wait, shit...
When in doubt..... try NOT stabbing people
Hard for me to believe this story.
Hard for me to empathise with this story's antagonist but not surprised that it happened... it had to happen somewhere, sometime... if not over a graphics card then over something else equally inane... most of these "spur of the moment" killings are - the French even have a separate legal name for them (though it's pretty much as serious as murder it does have a few more caveats that allow a downgrade to manslaughter - being an NVidea fan is not one of them though).
To be honest I'm kinda surprised that this didn't happen during the Emacs vs vi wars...
I'd say that 9 years is absolutely too light of a sentence. If you kill someone over something incredibly stupid like an argument over "x is better than y", you should get a very heavy sentence. What you have collectively shown society is that you're willing to murder over even small things, which is frankly a lot more terrifying than someone who murders over something like money issues or a cheating spouse or any number of things where the cause was more directly a one time thing.....
That depends on how you regard money or cheating on a spouse... for a gigalo cheating is par for the course... no? And it's hardline capitalists that care about money that much. It's all a matter of perspective but also empathy... some people just have trouble controlling their emotions and crimes of passion (IANA(French)L but I think this would be classified as such under French law) are something that are easier to empathise with than premeditated murder (if only because most people have lost their cool at one time or another and making an ethical decision is really not something most people are capable of; the main blocks to murdering someone would be self-discipline, social pressure (and a person's vulnerability to it), physical ability (i.e. initiative, strength and dexterity vs the victim) and readily available access to a suitable weapon that the person is capable of using in an offensive manner without thought... which is the crux of the matter - these things are often done without thought which makes them difficult to predict (hence why violent offenders that end up in mental institutions are almost never released or able to prove they are rehabilitated or not longer sufferers - but that's a different injustice entirely).
Join the conversation! Log in to post a comment.