got so distracted by the pacman ghost's sunglasses reflection
I love that Pac-man ghost he's got style.
I dont think they should be more like marvel. Its just the main movies so far have been the superman movies and now batman v superman, and all in all they just havnt been very good to watch.
I still patiently await the director's cut.
No. Definitely not. DC Animated is so on point, they're wrecking Marvel's animated content. Marvel movies respected the comics, DC has paid heavy homage to the comics but they've decided to create characters that are the opposite from their comic version so that they can learn and move towards that goal, which is fine but on top of poor conveyance people just walked away confused.
They don't need to be light and fun, there's a reason why Batman remains the most popular super hero, just do him justice and get that solo film out as quick as possible. But yeah Suicide Squad should be more fun while being dark because you have Joker and Harley. "Fun" should follow the relevant characters, Flash, Green Lantern, Robin, Joker, etc.
Honestly I'm getting bored with Marvel movies, I'm really hoping Civil War will breath some new life into them. I have not seen BVS so I can't comment on it, but I am currently re watching the Dark Knight Trilogy, as well as arrow Flash and Legends of Tomorrow and playing Arkham knight, so right now DC is really doing it for me.
In the Wonder Woman movie are they going to show the part where Hades fucks Diana's mom? I would watch that. Also everyone's talking about a dropoff, but Batman vs Superman has made over $720 million. It's close to triple it's budget which is a huge financial success.
I'm not sure where you found $720 million but I'm only finding numbers closer to $680, which still isn't terrible. The real issue is I've seen 2 budget numbers flouting around on the internet one with just movie budget pegged at 250 million and another with rumored massive marketing cost pushing the cost to around $410 million, I'm inclined to believe this because, for those who forgot, the first trailer came out 11 months ago. With this massive cost to make and sell BvS the fact that box office revenue is expected to drop another 50 something percent into the low 20 millions this weekend personally I don't think it will cross $750 million globally. All this said this movie is financially solid, it's the next movie that WB is worried about, they are concerned that the disappointment and crashing ticket sales will cary over into Justice League even if Justice League turns out to be good.
TL; DR Batman VS Superman will make back its money and then some, it's the future profits of the DCEU the WB is worried about.
723m according to BoxOfficeMojo. For comparison, Deadpool, a movie pretty much universally loved and exalted by everyone everywhere, topped out at 753m. For all the shit its getting in from "critics" the audience's wallets have spoken.
It's an overreaction. Not to say the movie quality was amazing, but they were trying to do a lot with combining two comic plots and introduce the Justice League founders. The solo movies will do better because they'll be more focused. They don't need to be like Marvel and i really hope they don't try. Justice League could be a better movie since the plot will hopefully be less bloated.
@BigSpoon223 first Thank you for the source on the box office numbers that was really helpful of.
Second Deadpool is a bad movie to use as a comparison because yea it brought in a similar $753 million but it only had a budget, without marketing, of $58 million and it was rated R and it broke box office records for R rated movies and is the second highest grossing R rated movie ever. Batman VS Superman is not these things.
Third again it's not this movie that's in trouble it's Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League.
My problem is not with the movies being too dark. It is with them not following the comics. That being said I very much liked Ben Affleck's Batman and thought it was appropriate for the film. I did feel like he was not the great detective he is suppose to be, which made me mad. I also felt like other character development in the film was too forced and not respective of the comics.
I'm a huge DC fan, so I enjoyed the movie more than the majority of people I talked to just because it was really cool to see Batman done the way I always imagined him on-screen. However, my two gripes with the movie are as follows:
1) It was cut/edited horribly. It was like a series of trailers for a bunch of different movies, or at least that's what it felt like.
2) They threw a ton of shit in there without explaining it in the movie. I got most if not all of it because I have that outside knowledge of the universe, but for people who've never touched a comic before, it must have just been confusing as hell. And it's not just easter egg stuff like Marvel does, it's all the big stuff they dedicate roughly half the movie to. Wonder Woman is hardly explained at all, everything involved with Darkseid was just kind of tossed in without a word. The whole nightmare vision bit makes no sense whatsoever if you don't know about Apokolips, Parademons, Darkseid's ability to control minds, his symbol being Omega, etc.
Marvel shows stuff like that, and they have some stuff that is involved with the main plot but isn't directly spoonfed to you. For example, in Iron Man, Obediah's villain name is Iron Monger. He never explicitly says "Call me Iron Monger muahahaha!", but he *does* say to Stark, "We're Iron Mongers."
In conclusion, a movie has to be able to stand on its own in my opinion, and BvS failed at doing that by relying on the assumption that its entire audience has outside knowledge of the comic book universe.
I like the darker tone. It was a 2.5 hr movie where it felt like the first hour nothing happened. Every 10 minutes a slow motion shot and the story was all over the place... It was just boring to watch. Nothing was a surprise. Well eccept "Martha" that was surprisingly stupid...
All that talk only makes me curious about Man of Steel and Batman v Superman to the point I might give them a watch. When I hear they aren't Marvel movies, that sounds like praise to me.
To be fair, I've never really liked the Marvel/Avengers thing. It doesn't appeal to me. I liked Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool, but man did I think Captain America was utterly stupid.
I feel that DC is trying to be more like Marvel with it's movies, but has unfortunately mixed up Marvel's realistic qualities with being darker. I'd absolutely *hate* DC actually being more like them, but I also feel these movies are too dark now - cool action scenes, yeah, but when I read DC comics I go to them for the stories! Their comics read so much better issue to issue, in comparison to Marvel's need for multiple issues for the story.
I do enjoy a good smash-em-up, but we're already getting that from the MCU; good stories and writing would get DC to earn my dollar over Marvel's for sure
yea the world is being destroyed lets have a laugh
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