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8 years ago

I feel like this move by the WHO regarding gaming could just be an alternative push by a group to force people to recognize that gaming has risks. Especially with the recent hub hub over microtransactions there are no doubt people who feel that there are some real risks here that have been ignored. So they are now trying to ride the momentum to get some bigger changes made.

Isaacb312

8 years ago

I don't see the problem with gaming disorder in the sense of labeling it that if gaming takes over life to the point it causes serious harm then its bad

LooseL34f

8 years ago

Also, to put this in a bit better context, keep in mind that a fair number of disorders, when described, sound very much like normal behaviors with a caveat or taken to extremes. Disorders are generally recognized at the point where they interfere with one's life. Checking to make sure the oven is off before you leave is normal, however spending twenty minutes going back and forth because every time you're about to leave you're compelled to go check again, and again, is not. In addition, if I remember correctly, and please correct me if I'm wrong anyone, some disorders are extensions of more basic problems that just happen to lie within a specific set of circumstances that makes the situation unique enough to warrant a specialization. On Glitch Please, and in the past, The Patch, the topic has come up often enough in different contexts that the immersion of video games makes it a very unique experience in terms of media consumption; this is simply the other side of that coin. I can only speak for myself, but no other hobby demands the attention that video games do. In nothing else have I decided to do something worth fifteen minutes and lost six hours. Even reading didn't steal as much of my attention, I was always very aware of the time passing. The language of the statement may seem reaching, and I've certainly not done the research to say one way or the other, but I don't feel like it's unfair to consider the hypothesis.

HemboHero

8 years ago

I keep up with The Know videos and expect the discussions on Glitch Please, but the fatal swatting incident caught me by surprise. I would hope Alfredo's idea of contacting local authorities and attempting to make precautionary steps would make a difference.

Quizzical_Quark

8 years ago

Not really want to start up the gun conversation, but it's a bit inevitable here. Police interventions in gun controlled nations have way less chance to end up in innocent lives being lost. When an officer goes in a conflict situation in the US they have to assume everyone is carrying a weapon, while in other countries most small criminals (burglars, muggers, ...) don't even have guns. Unless there's signs that a situation was planned law enforcement can walk with a very small risk for a gun to be at the scene. So as long they can maintain distance they're pretty safe.

Isaacb312

8 years ago

police in the us have treat the situation serious because statistically they are very likely to get killed one of usa's great problems

farson135

8 years ago

Part of the problem is the opposite. The NRA is the biggest gun training organization in the US. Cities (which tend to favor more gun control) do not want to give money to the NRA, so they support their own internal trainers for police. Those trainers too often use outdated, or outright incorrect info. For example, after LA County introduced a new firearm there was a massive rise in accidental shootings. The reason was because they were trained to put their finger on the trigger as soon as they draw, and the new firearm has a much lighter trigger.

Probably the most dangerous training issue is the misuse of the Tueller Drill. The Tueller Drill states that the time it takes for a person standing still to cover 21 feet, and stab you, is the same amount of time it should take you to draw, and fire an accurate shot. The Tueller Drill is designed to do two things. To practice drawing and firing under pressure, and to give you an idea of time. Certain police departments have taken to training their officers that anyone within 21 feet is a lethal threat. You can see how this is a problem.

None of this means that we cannot talk about gun control. But we cannot forget other elements. This is a complex issue.

Ryokugan

8 years ago

With Swatting, I think it should always be an immediate attempted murder charge (unless someone dies, in which case it switches to actual murder) for exactly this reason. We all knew someone dying was an eventuality. You must know that there's a chance that someone could die, all because you felt like being a stupid shitty little prick. We need to make it clear that this kind of bullshit is 100% absolutely unacceptable.

As for the police involved, the victim moving his hand in the general direction of his waist is absolutely not a valid excuse to shoot. Police in the US are too trigger happy; their immediate response to the remotest possibility of a threat is to blow it away. Throw in that "I was scared for my life" is constantly used for the justification for why some poor bastard gets filled with holes just for existing in the presence of jumpy police, and I just find it to be an empty excuse. I don't think the officer involved should be charged with murder, but he should certainly be punished somehow as well.

Skyler_PP

8 years ago

i totally agree. i fucking hate american cops and how trigger happy they are. bunch of pussies with guns

farson135

8 years ago

Ashley, have you ever played the Resistance series? It is by the same guys who did Sunset Overdrive. In the early 1900s, an alien infection swept through Russia, converting the population. By 1949 all of Europe has fallen. In 1951, America breaks its neutrality, and delivers an expeditionary force to the UK to help the British fight them off. As the games go on, the Chimera spread to the US, and these games provide some of the bleakest moments for America I have seen in gaming.

There is something kind of big coming out soon-ish. Bloodstained Ritual of the Night is supposed to come out in March. If you are a huge Castlevania Symphony of the Night fan, then this is big.

As a fan of the Souls/Borne games, I am also looking forward to Code Vein.

I am a huge fan of the Valkyria Chronicles series, and I am happy they are returning to their roots with Valkyria Chronicles 4.

I missed Shadow of the Colossus, and I can’t wait to get into it.

God of War, Detroit: Become Human, and We Happy Few are also on my list to keep an eye on.

InkHero

8 years ago

Anyone who is interested in Monster Hunter World, but like Adam, might need someone to show them the ropes. The reddit and discord communities are fantastic and welcoming!

DizzyTiger

8 years ago

I'm pretty sure Twitter found who the dumb COD kids who had the swatting bet were, I'd link it but it was in my timeline like days ago, and it might've been a hoax anyways. Sooo... yeah. From what I remember though, it really was just some dumb kid like an actual like 12 year old.

ElSuperNova

8 years ago

Ashley, Adam, and Alfredo?

The AAA experiecnce.

PacMonster

8 years ago

Alfredo, when a swat team is aiming heavy assault weaponry at you, thinking where your hands should go is not a thought that would reasonably cross your mind. And this was a situation where the man would have no reason to suspect the cops would be ready to shoot on sight.

Abel0990

8 years ago

To be truthful but sad bro, its an ethnic thing were we just have that set of mind that if you see cops you raise your hands and seem as unhostile as possible.

PacMonster

8 years ago

@abel0990 Couple things. Andy Finch, the man killed in the swatting incident is a white dude. Secondly, and I can't stress this enough, this wasn't a situation where there was time to process what he should be doing. The dude literally stepped outside his front door and was shot. There have been thousands of cases where even black and Latino people who fully know how trigger happy police are were killed despite making no apparent hostile movements or movements that were misconstrued as "sudden" after the fact.

crimsonrain8

8 years ago

More of the AAA experience in 2018 please! You three are a great panel.

moonyriot

8 years ago

So I think it was CBS that was reporting on the SWAT incident and said that the guy only opened the door and went outside because he heard stuff happening outside and went to check out what was happening, he didn't actually know it was targeted at him. That could be inaccurate because I saw it a couple days ago and can't quite remember specifics but it sounded like he didn't even know the SWAT team was there and didn't know he was involved.

Shmittles

8 years ago

I played Recettear several years ago back in colledge. It's pretty simple, but I found it very enjoyable. Fun characters, with a good sense of humor. Looking forward to hearing more about your experience with it.

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