Call of Duty Removes Racist Symbol

@digital_nothing the only thing ridiculous here is you, bubba. How hard is it to understand that you’re literally feeding into the White supremacist movement by saying this? Assuming you aren’t one of them yourself. It’s not complicated. It’s a symbol that’s been stolen by a hate group. How hard is that for you? You’re right, it IS ridiculous. It’s also 100% true, so what’s your point? How about a solution instead of whining about it?

@ThoughtlessQuelea You're insane

@ThoughtlessQuelea right.... someone who reads the original comment might become a supremacist now... are you dumb? ''how about a solution in stead of whining about it?'' back at you buddy

@digital_nothing It's designed to give the alt-right plausible deniability. They use it as a racist symbol and then, when they are called on it, act like the person pointing it out is crazy. This works best when appropriating existing symbols. The OK sign is not first appropriated symbol, and it will not be the last. It would help if it wasn't written off as a hoax by those unfamiliar with it or unwilling to call bigotry what it is

@Bennetas you’re right it did sound dumb

@ThoughtlessQuelea but it's an accurate question

@Bennetas A valid comment and a discussion that needs to be had.

@Bennetas Yes because these devs arent going out of their way to find out who is using it.. also other games just dont care regardless. You bought the game, enjoy being racist in it if you want.. Granted COD is free and that may change it a little bit from that standpoint but fuck.. JUST IMPLEMENT A FILTER. like they do with slurs already. At this rate we can call everything racist including your house and these idiots would burn their house down. THATS the plan? do you not fucking understand that? Destroy everything you cared about by implementing racist connotations so then we can see who the hypocrites are and then the flat out not users and realize where the line of paying customers is and pander to them.. not anita sarkeesian and Zoe, the murderer.

@muhkoo YEAH BECAUSE ITS A PART OF SIGN LANGUAGE YOU DUNCE.. ffs skinheads didnt exist that long ago, Hitler didnt exist yet.. A white supremacist hand gesture would be used by skinheads not racists, racism isnt a hierarchy skinheads do have a hierarchy and they dont use it lol You know why its being used not, to make people like you look stupid af. The more the that side looks retarded the more and more it draws in.. especially with the special events recently.

@TheTwuh or the people who think everything is racist ruin everything.. I have skinhead friends and they dont do this.. lol they sucker punch your ass

@VaultHunter26 It's designed to give the alt-right plausible deniability. They use it as a racist symbol and then, when they are called on it, act like the person pointing it out is crazy. This works best when appropriating existing symbols. The OK sign is not first appropriated symbol, and it will not be the last. It would help if it wasn't written off as a hoax by those unfamiliar with it or unwilling to call bigotry what it is

@WittyVigilante Well the whole point was to take a mundane everyday thing that everyone has used at some point, make people think its some great hate symbol, and then laugh when people freak out about it. Essentially its for shits and giggles for people who make fun of excessive pc culture. That is why I joked about making the peace sign, a hate symbol. How ironic would that be? I guess my conclusion is both people who appropriated it and those who actually fell for the hoax originally are both idiots.

@VaultHunter26 Thank god not everyones stupid... If this side they stand for cared why are the biggest and most accommodating skinhead compounds in liberal states? Theres was literally one 4 miles from the CHAZ center in seattle.. Just because someone you dont like finds a joke funny doesnt make that joke hateful.. YOU CAN EAT A DICK if you are going to try and argue otherwise. How about stop voting for the party that created the KKK and started lynchings.

@VaultHunter26 It can't be both an appropriated hate symbol and a hoax

@OmegaGay Hmmm... I have noticed that people seem to equate racism and xenophobia... this is a problem. Xenophobia is (literally) "fear of the strange, alien or foreign". Racism is "a believe that race determines the majority of human traits and [generally] that your own race is inately superior to others". Japan is indeed highly xenophobic but is also the (non-city-state) country in the world with the least crime so you can see how they would naturally fear things that were not Japanese. It doesn't help that USAian military personal stationed in Japan (some would say "occupying" - given the size and number of USAian bases in Okinawa that is actually a debatable point) are responsible for a good chunk of the most visible and media friendly crimes (rape, including child rape) and that few are successfully procescuted in Japan (you can count them on one hand) and prosecutions in the USAian military system amount to less than a quarter with most receiving no jail time - they generally return to base before they are caught by the Japanese police and are then transfered out of Japan by the USAian military on USAian military transport and never allowed to enter Japanese custody despite requests otherwise. Two particularly egregious cases even led to the removal of some USAian military bases, renegotiansions of various important bi-lateral and defense agreements between the USA and Japan due to the awful history of this problem - it dates back to the admitted occupation by the USA after WWII. In both those cases the at least one of the offending parties commited or attempted to commit rape again in the USA and received a much more severe punishment there than had been allowed the Japanese system due to pressure from the USAian government. THAT is racism... the USA thinking that Japanese (children's) lives do not matter as much as USAian (children's) lives. The irony is that even down to the smallest things many foreigners in Japan do not respect the culture and customs here and cause people to fear the repercussions of their actions - garbage disposal has been a serious issue in Japan for it's entire history - it has almost zero natural resources, no oil, gas, mineral deposits etc. to speak of. This means almost all of this has to be imported or recycled increasing costs and the difficulty of manufacture. Outside of Europe most countries still do not take this matter as seriously as Japan and even in Europe only about half as vociferous. This leads to many foreigners applying their own countries rules to garbage i.e. everything in one bag. Unfortunately standard non-recyclable garbage should be split into burnable and non-burnable since most of the burnable is incinerated for power to avoid having to import so much expensive and environmentally-unfriendly gas and oil. So dumping non-burnable stuff into the standard burnable bin (usually the default) clogs up the incinerators that produce power - this causes a number of expensive problems. Failing to abide by rules for garbage disposal here also brings problems for local residents as the garbage collectors will refuse to accept garbage if they notice it is incorrectly sorted, but then it is up to the local residents association to find the culprit and correct the problem - this is both difficult and highly embarressing for all Japanese people involved, something made worse when they have trouble communicating the problem to an offending foreigner compounded by the fact foreigners often aggressively brush off the issue rather than be embarressed and apologetic as a Japanese person would almost always be. This aggressive behaviour in the face of breaking rules that have serious consequences; local, prefectural and national, makes many Japanese who (in the cheap areas where many younger foreigners often live) have not been abroad or have only little experience with foreigners makes them, understandly, fearful of foreigners. Many people will argue that Japan's xenophobia is primarily directed towards Westerners or non-East Asians... that is because the Japanese themselves can not easily identify non-Japanese East Asians with sufficient certainty without lots of practice, especially since other East Asians often make many fewer cultural or social mistakes and often dress much as the Japanese do. However the approbrium they can receive if "discovered" is rather worse as some Japanese will consider them as purposfully hiding their otherness and take this as an offense. Given that China is a neighbour you maybe understand this worry of "hiding" Chinese agents, especially given the number of times Japanese and Chinese forces have clashed over teritorial claims, nevermind anything else. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/09/sexual-assaults-us-military-japan-prison-unlikely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Brown_Okinawa_assault_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident

@OmegaGay TLDR; Xenophobia is not racism. Racism is not xenophobia. ence having two different words and in the case of Japan that xenophobia is (to a degree) justified by stereotypes, actual examples available to the man on the street in Japan and (true) media stories from Japan and abroad (the racism and aggression of USAian police forces in the media being an example). None of this justifies racist actions but it does make it understandable why many Japanese are xenophobic - whether they cat on it or not. My own experience is that their primary distrust of and fear of aggression by foreigners is targeted at USAians - as soon as I explain I am European Japanese I meet are generally less nervous and sometimes even apologise for thinking I was USAian; Canadian friends have said the same thing, my Nigerian friend in Japan apparently does not have good enough English to be mistaken for an Afro-American?! (maybe? She is still trying to suss that one out!)

@OmegaGay To add upon the coments left on this already. I think it's nieve to expect a different culture to move to acomodate another culture. I want to preference that I don't meen racism that is of course not acceptable. but when talking about xenophbia i dont necessarily feel that you can expect a country like japan especially with its history with the USA to just accept you off the bat especially with its past from ww2 all the way up to logan/ jake paul (I can never remember which is which) coming over and just blantantly disrespecting the culture for internet clout. of course that is going to cause a fear of outsiders who clearly don't understand or respect their culture or way of life. Asia is also kept on a seperate server as well so to bring Japan up as an issue is kind of strange considereing american servers shouldnt really interact with the majority of japanese players (not that i'm entirelly sure about that as im not a us resident myself)

@RiverRunning lol ok. by that logic bigotry isnt racism AND EVERYHTING BEING CALLED RACIST IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, is bigotry.. not racism. People argue the definition of hatred of ones skin color isnt racism anymore. so. Its either is or it isnt.. But that doesnt matter because Xenophobia is just as problematic and toxic.. Its all or nothing buddy.