PlayStation CENSORED?!

While I do find the depiction of abuse in the trailer to be rather childish, and unrealistic, I believe it is a good thing that games are maturing as an art form, and they feel comfortable discussing serious topics. Detroit looks interesting, and I hope they "tighten up" the problems in the narrative. I also hope games continue to explore these difficult subjects. 

As for the rest, I think people are hung up on the idea that games are "toys", and not serious art. Changing that, will require a change in perception. I am old enough to gauge how far we have come, and I think games are mainstream enough that perception will swing very quickly in the near future.  

When i was a child my parents taught me that even though tv, movies and video games may show some violent situations it is not okay to copy these actions in real life.

Scenarios that I've seen in film/games when I was a child/early teen was nothing compared to the fucked up shit my classmates showed me on random websites.

I genuinely don't understand all this backlash against that Detroit trailer.  Interesting that this video used a clip from the earlier trailer with the android detective, where there's a kid with a gun being held to her head who can get thrown off a building in a bad ending.  No-one made a peep about that for some reason.  But nothing in these trailers makes me think they're handling the child abuse in an irresponsible way - the game is clearly about saving the girl from abuse, even at a risk to Kara's own 'life', and at the end of the Marcus trailer it showed Kara watching the news and hugging a child, who I'm going to assume is the girl from this section, so it seems like she's going to be an ongoing character and it's not just a throwaway segment for Kara's character.  Like, if there was nothing you could do to save the girl, and the situation just 'inspired' Kara to do other things with her life, yeah, I could see it.  But saving her from abuse is obviously the point of that segment, and I'm going to guess - not knowing, not having played the game, obviously - that even if you let her die, the game is going to make it very clear to you that you fucked up, that that was wrong.

Which I guess is part of why I don't think it's that terrible for THIS game to have that segment - because it's a very narrative game, and it's still going to have the stamp of the writers all over it giving a perspective on the events, it's not really going to be all up to the choice of the players.  If it was in a Fallout game or something, and it was an optional sidequest you could let play out however you chose, and the game basically implied that whatever way you chose was great, because YOU chose it, and it was just character-building for you, I'd probably think that was fucked up.  But this game being such a narrative game, where the creators are still probably going to be able to depict things a certain way no matter what you do, makes it feel more like if a film or a novel was handling it.  And no-one thinks no book or film should handle child abuse, just because some people read books for entertainment.  And that's the difference between having this stuff in a game and having a 'racist' or 'misogynist' game, despite what Ashley said - a misogynist game would in some way be implying misogyny was okay, not just talking about rape or violence against women.  It's not the subject matter, it's how you handle it.  Detroit is still a video game, and it's still handling this thing as kind of an action sequence, but not acting like it doesn't matter.  It looks like it's an extended sequence, and it explores the effects of child abuse, it discusses it, and it makes it clear it's not okay, and the thing to do in that situation is to stop it if you can.  Even the 'violent' endings seem to only happen in self-defence - which does happen sometimes in abuse situations.

Anyway, tl;dr: I live in the UK and the Mail and the Sun are both rags to be honest, but if this actually leads to Sony altering or pulling the game, I'm going to...spit.

I think it's fine so long as the bad things happening in the scenes are clearly being indicated as bad things, and not promoting them in a positive or "accepted" light. After that, its up to the viewer to determine if they want to keep watching/playing.

So like, where this would be okay, an example of something probably not okay would be video game footage of that one time Gus Sorola was playing Fable, beating a whore over and over while his in-game wife and all the villagers cheered him on to keep doing it.

That these people are telling Sony to change it clearly shows they have no idea what they are talking about since it's not Sony's game (is it?)

And this is all clearly an issue with most adults considering games to be toys despite the fact that most of the industry seems to be supported by people with credit cards these days and that these people clearly haven't played many non-toy games (since they only seem to play toy games themselves which they would deny is the point).