Come on guys, you didn't even touch on the most controvesiel part of the whole debat....the god damn robot arm. I seriously thought after watching the announce trailer, that I was watching som Battle Royal version of Battlefield set in an altenative universe.
I love how Ashley says "retread all the most famous Battlefields like.... Normandy...." I felt like there should be more, but there isn't.
Normandy has become a sort of intellectual bankruptcy setting these days, personally I blame Saving Private Ryan. Essentially we've reached the point where *every* WW2 game has to have a Normandy (or even more specifically an Omaha beach) scene. And the worst thing? They're almost always just a retread of Saving Private Ryan, almost shot for shot. This is an issue not because Normandy isn't of Historical or Cultural value (although it's Historical Value is very much overemphasized by the Western Allies who for various reasons during and after the war downplayed the role of the Soviets and the Eastern Front) but because we've seen it so many times before it's become... well... boring. And this is the thing: WW2 was huge. It was so much bigger than just the attack on Omaha Beach, D-Day, the Normandy Campaign or even the battles that where fought across North West Europe! Hell, as I alluded to before, the Battles the 12th and 21st Army Groups fought during 44 and 45 where not even the largest battles fought in the war, or arguably even the most important.
I'd love to see other Campaigns and Theatres get some attention in popular media, for the sake of playing something different, because it would make more interesting and surprising gameplay, and because it would actually raise peoples awareness of the fact the war was more than just "Americans landed in Normandy and then advanced to Berlin." (and for every one who says "It's a video game not a History lesson" I know, but you can't ignore the fact that a lot of people get their History from popular cultures interpretations).
@Dernwine1988 Even if you don't want to feature Allied Nations because your core demographic is American (although are American Audiences really that fickle that they'd object to fighting the Japanese in Burma as a member of the British Indian Army? Or in New Guinea as an Australian?) There still are other options. Why haven't we seen a game that sees us fighting in the hills of Monte Casino? Or here's an idea: Have us be in the Philippine Islands when they fell to the Japanese in 1941, there's even a perfect sequel Tie in: I shall Return. I can come up with ideas like this all day.... but instead... we get yet another intellectually lazy "safe" Omaha Beach attack.
@Dernwine1988 You thinking something like Medal of Honor Underground and be about the French resistance? I might play more shooters if they included more varied stuff like that, even if the campaigns are still just glorified tutorials for the multiplier. And I think the people who argue that it's a video game not a history lesion are wrong if that game bills itself as being historically accurate.
@DarkTempler7 To be fair, no game has ever created a accurate portrayal of Omaha Beach even. It took hours to get up the cliffs, but in most games it's like "Oh you land.... and run up the beach get shot at, run up the trenches and the battle is won."
Or have Omaha beach be the last level ala CoD4. Imagine playing the whole game fighting in North Africa and Sicily, then the last level is Omaha Beach just for you to watch your PC get gunned down brutally in the last level as you try to get off the landing craft...
@Dernwine1988 I meant as accurate as possible, but you are correct. Some things in history obviously can't be translated into a video game or a movie for that matter. And that would be really cool, if only because I don't think I've ever seen a game short of maybe Axis and Allies that features the war in Italy, though I admittedly don't play many FPS games and that is where the bulk of WW2 games are.
I'd point out that Battlefront II has also been full of shit since launch. Dice has made and broken promise after promise, and there's speculation that they hardly have anyone working on it any more.
While i agree about there being women in ww2, They served in their specific areas. French resistance, Russian Front, Resistance in Northern Europe and other fronts. They were not ww2 bionic women who ran around with cricket bats. BF was more in line with soldiers representing their factions or armies quite well. But this is beyond just crazy fantasy. Yes the game does go towards that route, but its silly to ignore the complaint of accuracy since the trailers usually show a more serious side, and with crazy spectacle without going too over the top of the crazy mountain. bf5 trailer jumped off the cliff without a chute and looks way too crazy since its initial showing. I don't want to see a cyborg women attacking a scott with samurai sword in hand as german tanks and american tanks go over a hill as allies. Feels way too fantasy rather than a ww2 shooter and i think that it turned off people as a result. but thats just my opinion without taking into account the bf2 fiasco
You want to release a game between CoD and RRD? As much as I love Battlefield (It's the better game), the fanboys are going to suck up CoD and RRD without a second thought.
I am super excited for Battlefield V. I am not pre-ordering anymore though. Not after broken promise of broken promise, not just from EA but other developers as well. It really doesn't bother me if a game is historically accurate, I think it is awesome there are women in the game and I am gonna buy it. Long as the game mechanics/gameplay is solid, no lootboxes, and good story then I am good.
Just thought i would put this out there, as of right now Battlefront 2 is discounted on games with gold through xbox for $9. I haven’t seen a triple a title get discounted that heavily since Mass Effect 3. That said I am still fully on board for Battlefield V and the shenaniganary that comes with the Battlefield franchise.
I don't care about the historical accuracy that much. I just kind of want more of a modern take again like battlefield 4. This is why I don't care about the accuracy, because I just want skyscrapers falling down all over the place again. Also, I like the modern guns. I think WW2 has been done enough in video games, and might need a longer break than what was given. The game mechanics look great on V and I'll still probably get it. Like they said in this video I just don't care to preorder any game really anymore.
whatever. I'll try it out and if I like I'll buy it. I thought that initial trailer was just fine, it made me want to jump in and do all that crazy shit myself. lots of gamers are little bitches now days.
I'm all for the concept of if you don't like a very small part of the game so much that you hate the game then don't buy it... I also think you're an idiot but that's by the by. Inclusivity is par for the course, historical accuracy or not - especially in entertainment and more so with FPSs.
Get woke, go broke. Why does EA have to sound like a whiny 21 year old fb user, who's incredibly opinionated, but not educated on what they preach like "if you don't like it, then block me!". The only way you make money is from your audience, so you have to listen to their wants and needs to a certain extent, unless of course they're antisemitic or discriminatory, and I feel the majority of complaints about historical accuracy came from a good place. Recently I feel WWII games narratives have to be warped because to have a woman in the game, generally the US has to collaborate with UK or Russian spies, so if she's just a US soldier period, at least that's a step forward in terms of narrative, but what's with this "over-uniquification" with characters, prosthetic arm, facepaint, a coat, a bat and my biggest pet-peeve, NO FUCKEN HELMET, WHY CAN'T TRIPLE A GAMES MAKE FRONT LINE OR SPECIAL FORCES SOLDIERS WEAR HELMETS!!! You can still distinguish characters faces with helmets on, no one is running into gunfire without a helmet on. You'd be shipped straight home if you not only didn't wear a helmet, but also had a prosthetic arm!? Every female protagonist in modern times has to have either partially or fully colored hair covering their eyes and no helmet with some distinguishable jewelry